this is interesting lol
Ahhhaha get him @theantifeminist
The fact that men don't have their own exclusive health page on most school pages should sum up that people care more about women.
Well, when you start giving birth (the worst physical experience for the human body) then you can get your own page.. and what a random argument pfff
Wow, so men have to be women to get equal treatment? Sounds like feminism to me.
How did you make a leap like that? That's a nonsensical and random response
No, men have to have the same number of health issues that are based on their sex.
Literally described procreation as the worst possible human experience ....Like...what?!
@caratara Actually women who have both given birth and have passed kidney stones have said kidney stones are worse. Men are more likely to suffer from kidney stones. Bazinga!
@bubba You must be joking, right?? Kidney stones is a medical condition so how can you even compare?
@caratara You said giving birth was the worst physical experience for the human body. Its not. Neither is kidney stones. You gave a smartass response to someone else's comment. If you want to diminish someone's argument with an assinine response I will do the same. If you want to be patronising I can also do the same.This is supposed to be a forum for mature debate. You chose not to debate and instead left a rude and stupid response.
@caratara ok. how are women treated less than men
That's actually a great point by THEANTIFEMINIST. I would love to hear what MFM08A has to say
Nothing. Nothing of substance is what he had to say.
Don't forget that women get less jail time, and don't get charged for faking a rape case.
Great points. I could have gone for another 20 minutes easily. I have too much ammunition for this topic.
The number of false rape accusations are very small, and comparable to the false accusations seen with other crimes. People are sometimes prosecuted on the rare occasions when they make demonstrably false accusations.
Yes can we please see these links @mfm08a
Of course! I don't remember what claims I made or didn't, so I'll just post my full notes on this debate tomorrow or the next day and tag you when I do. The notes are more thorough than what's in the video, they were built on the basis of his last debate, so it should be interesting and informative
i don't think i understand how pregnancy makes women live longer
men commit suicide because the patriarchy, uh er.........
Cognitive dissonance can be fun!
@mfm08a if women are weak, what is the point of feminism.
The government study is based on arrests. It is found that more men are falsely arrested anda higher % of arrested women are convicted. I was arrested twice for dv when I was the victim. My ex was arrested once and was convicted.
he really did his homework.
And why is this happening, because the society is teaching women that they can hit people and get no repercussions. Just watch TV shows. Ever since WWE went TV-PG, less and less men were shown hitting women. If you think that isn't enough, according to WWE viewers in Canada during the 90s, they said that the CRTC didn't show it nontheless.
violence comes from respect..............interesting
Lies, lies lies lies lies. Obviously the guy who got stabbed at my institution was very well respected because he made a fake account. Edit: typo
The Daily Mail is a tabloid, was he quoting The Daily Mail?
Truth claims should be judged on their substance, not their source.
@chasuk fair enough
Actually he does, the CIA wiped almost all of mothers killing their children in just a night. It's somewhere on reddit, but it did hit the front page once.
Great point about children and the physical weakness element
To say children and women are weaker, if we can spank OUR children without legal repercussions then why can't we spank OUR wives?
Who says you cannot spank your wife?? As long as she agrees and this is your thing..However, in your case it sounds that you might enjoy a spanking more :-)
And spank our husbands too!
You can, if she's into it.
Nope. An oligarchy is North Korea. Ruled by a small amount of people. A Patriarchy is when it's ruled by a majority of men.
This source does not offer evidence to say that America is not a patriarchy. A government can be both an oligarchy AND a patriarchy. @theantifeminist please explain how America is NOT "control by men of a disproportionately large share of power", taking into consideration the statistics given to you MULTIPLE times by @mfm08a
The burden of proof is not mine. Stop shifting it to me. The reason I kept asking for proof is he provided none. I did not make the claim and he did not prove it. The burden of proof is still on @mfm08a. You folks need to learn the basics of intellectual discourse before you go off half-cocked sounding like an ignorant child who demands someone prove their imaginary friend isn't real.
@theantifeminist You keep claiming that @mfm08a provided no proof to dispute your claim that we don't live in a patriarchy and yet he gave you the percentage breakdown of men to women in government 500 times–which directly disproves your claim.I would just like to know if you concede that point, especially since it seems to be the foundation of your entire argument.
It is the foundation of all of his arguments. You clearly didn't pay attention or only heard what you wanted through the warped lens you view society.Challenge me to a debate if you are so misinformed as to think you're right or his arguments have anything resembling objectivity. You folks are a never ending source of joy in an otherwise boring world. Please take another shovel and keep digging. I want to see how deep this hole can be dug.
He sure is arrogant for a guy who just got stomped, but I guess he knows more than the 63% of voters who did not vote for him.But one thing he doesnt know is the definition of oligarchy :P
@theantifeminist hey I found a youtuber with great sources called dr shaym
I'll put it in the words of NBA 2K17 commentary @mfm08a . Sure that maybe explains it, but it certainly doesn't justify it.
Yup, yup...open a dictionary and learn about these terminologies. Now stop being fixated in these stuff and make some serious arguments @theantifeminist
I was not the one defending the point. He was supposed to defend the idea that feminism is still relevant and needed and was unable to even give evidence that the worldview of feminism is real in our society. We do not live in a patriarchy.
The anti feminist has the easier side of this debate, but the lack ofeitquite and inability to debate properly is killing him.
hahahah, the fact that it's the first time in the US history that there was a female presidential candidate is ok hahah! @theantifeminist Seriously man you are supposed to be doing a debate not a Q&A or a constant blaab of biased comments. If you are not open to listen and process opposing views then you can talk to a mirror..
Hillary was the worst candidate we have ever seen. I believed Stein was a goodcandidate. Blaming Hillary losing on sexism, destroys all credibility. We do live in a patriarchy by definition. Both debators are off quite a bit
Pfft. Clearly he doesn't know that Hillary pulled the "Vote for me because I am a woman," card, and then on top of that she only thanked her female supporters. / Give it 40 years and it'll be the woman who are on top and the men who are in the middle. Also there are scholarships for "Women in Business," in our so called "patriarchy" that @mfm08a still hasn't defined properly, explain why we don't have "Men in Nursing" scholarships. /
@theantifeminist you just keep saying the same thing all the time.. quoting opinions and facts that you have memorized and are taken out of context.
and to say @mfm08a wasn't doing the same? Maybe not memorization but for sure saying the same things all the time.
@mfm08a and @theantifeminist u guys can leave closing video comments right here if you'd like
I said all I had to say. Since voting is over the debate in the OP attempting to sway people here would be dishonest. I had my 20 minutes.
@theantifeminist did you just leave without actually listening to @mfm08a closing statement? ?? Dude, it's ok when you cannot win, you can at still take it like a "man".. or a "woman" since there is no difference according to your opinion
After someone starts attacking me personally and refuses to actually answer my questions I think I gave him more than enough of my time. I wasn't able to respond and since he felt the need to attack me multiple times on a personal level I was done. If he, at the very least, had responded to some of my more direct questions with actual answers and not assumptions or opinions it would have been a much more fruitful discussion. Instead he used one logical fallacy after another to try and not give up any ground or concede any points and even went as far as to bring my personal life into the discussion knowing nothing about me.Sad.
How is pointing out the number of people in power in each of our branches of government a statement of personal opinion or experience.It's a fact. It's common knowledge.
MFM08A YOU LOSE when you have to lie saying 98% of Domestic abusers were men when it clearly says, 98% of those accused of domestic violence are men. Less than 11% are prosecuted meaning that their false accusations or psychological because there is no medical proof, meaning a large proportion of 80% are flat out lies.  Your own source. Women abused children more than men is that patriarchy too?Men make up 48% of the victims, with women Initiating violence 70% [2-3] of the time. You are a liar sir, you disgust me because that comes from the For most world authority on domestic violence  so will either you're a liar or you're illiterate, five second Feminist / Libertarian Nazi narratived Google search was all it talk. If anybody has a conscience or morality You would vote against this man because it least the antifeminist didn't have to lie to put his point forward. While MFM08A was hoping that you were too lazy or stupid to check his sources.1: http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=2352: Walters, M.L., Chen J., & Breiding, M.J. (2013). The National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey (NISVS): 2010 Findings on Victimization by Sexual Orientation. Atlanta, GA: National Center for Injury Prevention and Control, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.3: Straus, M. (1999). The controversy over domestic violence by women.Violence in intimate relationships, 17-44.
1. By the rules of the debate I won by quite a bit2. http://www.opdv.ny.gov/professionals/abusers/genderandipv.html#note77
@mfm08a, although you "argued from the negative" I was surprised to find myself argeeing with a few of your points. However, what I hear and see are still two very different things.
You sound like a thoughtful and interesting guy, Im wondering if you and I could have an exchange offline sometime. My facebook is Facebook.com/mobilesuitgundam if you want to message me to talk about it.
I don't think this is an appropriate forum for picking up guys max, but it does suddenly make more sense why you so badly want homosexuality not to be a sin
Keep debating this loser Max. I've been laughing my ass off all morning and will probably even share with my coworkers! 😉
The fact that there are more "likes" (aka vanity without substance) on the "feminist" side yet more substance based comments on the "antifeminist" side is quite telling.Your sensitivities are being baited, if you argue for feminism do more than "like", be able to explain why you argue for such.
max is a hysterical SJW who represents the polar opposite of what his claimed religion preaches
I won our debate until you got it taken down with trollish shenanigans :P Maybe that was your goal, to conceal your shame? Now you can go back to your white supremacist buddies and tell them you crushed me without the evidence of your debate being publicly available
your entire argument was the vague and utterly unconvincing interpretation of one particular word that ignores the entire context of what sin is, how it's punished, and every fact I mentioned during the debate and proved with links all over the page. it will be back up soon for more people to laugh at you so fear not. calling me a "white supremacist" because you have no argument against the "down low brother" epidemic is--as I am sure you are well aware--not an argument
that domestic violence thing being an example of "patriarchy" was absurd. it's laughed at, mocked and minimized by feminists. men keep trying to start shelters and raise funding for male victims of DV. Guess what? It isn't other men blocking that. It's women and feminists.
we DO live in a society outwardly run by men--weak, gullible, easily manipulated men who bend over backwards to do womens' bidding in the hopes of getting laid
women feign powerlessness as a means of attaining even more power, and max falls for it hook, line and sinker. no idea how female power works. sad!
the kind of person who would vote for someone just because she's a woman, with no regard for her character or history, does not deserve a right to vote