absolutely! This will only make us lose support with other muslim countries in the area and put us in danger. Not to mention this is further dividing the US!
@rosa1465 I don't agree with the ban but I don't think it will really impact much in terms of the war on terror. It's not like terrorists are going to be pushed over the edge by this ban. The majority of terrorists carrying out attacks on the US don't even come from the countries on the list...
This ban is necessary! This will prevent thousands of potential terrorists from coming into the US. How will it possibly increase the risk of attacks, that makes no sense...
@ryan_t14 This argument is literally the reason as to why the ban will never work. Because idk it's actually one of the most bigoted and just downright wrong things I've seen all year. So.. 1) given that there are multiple countries with a high percentage of Muslims and only seven of them are affected by this ban. You're not "preventing thousands of potential terrorists" because there will still be thousands of Muslims entering the country. BUT WAIT A SECOND - that's assuming that EVERY TERRORIST (or even a majority of them) are Muslim which is literally just fucking wrong right. Like I'm almost certain that the majority of terrorist attacks were commited by.. wait a minute.. oh that's right. People who aren't Muslims - which funnily enough, you country is mostly made up of mostly non-Muslims. But anyway moving on to point 2) addressing the blatant ignorance and the fact you can't conceptualise what the ban will do and how it looks to people. It LITERALLY proliferates the idea that society hates Muslims. Bad. Why? Because when they feel vilified and disenfranchised from society bc idk ALL THEY WANT IS TO LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE THEYRE NOT AFRAID OF BEING BLOWN UP BY SOME FORM OF EXPLOSIVE, they are more likely to lash out at the people who make them feel so horrible about themselves. A ban like this (while the intentions are good) will never do anything good bc all it says is "Hey Muslims, we think all of you are terrorists so none of you can come into our country" - not a v good message to send to anyone.
It's a 90 day freeze on immigration from seven countries that are currently conflict zones while new vetting processes are created. Countries like Saudi Arabia, where a large portion of the 911 hijackers came from, were excluded because they aren't a warzone currently. The only exception is Syria, which I believe is an indefinite ban.
@richhobo It's not about the countries or the 90 days "temp" ban!!!! It's how he did it and the signals it sends to the world. "I'm a big man and I don't care about anything or anyone. I will do whatever I want..bigly!"
@derrickthekid Using an executive order to buy time to alter the vetting process? How would you do it?
How does taking measures to protect from terrorist open us up to more attacks?Are you really going to commit the bigotry of lower expectations for all of Muslims?
@meta_self In similar ways that the invasion in Iraq ended up promoting terrorism and creating ISIS. These orders and most importantly the way they were implemented already has and will further a) alienate important allies both in the west and the Middle East, b) strengthen extremist propaganda c) contribute to more people becoming radicals within the US and conducting "lone wolf" attacks that it's close to impossible to stop (e.g. drive a truck against innocent crowds of people). I don't see how the potential benefit from these rushed moves will ever be greater than these risks.
@dave_andretti ISIS grew from weapon transfers that we initiated. We armed them. Stopping potential Trojan horses are crucial. We presumably could have stopped 9/11 with tighter secuirty. This is tempaorary and will result in a better vetting process. Don't you think the legit ones could wait?