@citizenthom Though I fundamentally disagree with you, and believe it is father's utmost duty to protect his children in whatever way will best keep them safe, I have to apologize for losing my temper. I lost my cool there and said some things I could have communicated far more respectfully.
@deusvult Apology accepted. Likewise I did not fully resist the urge to get personal, and I offer my apology for the same.
@citizenthom Also accepted and appreciated.
@deusvult in my opinion you don't even need to apologize. Sometimes debates get heated and some people can't handle the truth
@torimarie Says she of zero H2H debates. How about you come accept one of my challenges or throw one out yourself?
@torimarie I know, I just think I could have delivered that truth more respectfully is all. I try not to lose my cool but it happens sometimes.
@deusvult even @theantifeminist makes more valid points than you. At least he attempts to offer statistics instead of just drawing conclusions based on what he thinks, like you do. Learn how to present a rational argument.
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Feminists aren't accountable for their actions? @deusvult I think you have a very limited exposure to feminists because what you describe doesn't sound like any of the feminists I know. Also, locking your doors and wearing a skirt are two very different things but it boils down to this: LEAVING YOUR DOORS UNLOCKED STILL DOESN'T JUSTIFY A ROBBERY, just like wearing a certain outfit doesn't justify a rape.
@rosa1465 that wasn't the point of that argument. It isn't full blame, but women do need to accept and be accountable for certain truths about their actions.
@rosa1465 Why is my point so difficult to understand for you people? It isn't complicated.
@deusvult 'you people'? Who? Women? Are you going to go out an murder someone because they look like a person who is easy to murder? No crime, regardless of who is the target, is the victim's fault. No exceptions.
@rosa1465 I don't do stupid and risky things, and subsequently I am never the victim of criminals who seek out those doing stupid and risky things. This is really, REALLY not difficult to follow.
@deusvult and if you are not doing anything risky and a crime is committed against you, who is at fault?
@rosa1465 Theirs, obviously.
@deusvult so then to you, where do you draw the line for when the victim should share some of the blame? Wearing certain outfits? Identifying as a feminist?
@rosa1465 Putting themselves in stupid situations. Getting blackout drunk. Going home with men they don't know. Things that most male fifth graders can easily understand are increasing the risk of victimhood, despite the fact that these simple and obvious truths seem to evade most adult women.
@deusvult those 'naked marches' are in protest of several court cases in which the defense used the argument of "well she shouldn't have been wearing a skirt and then she wouldn't have been raped". It obviously doesn't mean that women should start running around naked and for you to think that is pretty ridiculous. I mean, I'm not a HUGE supporter of the modern feminism movement but your case is kinda dumb.
also @deusvult you call @citizenthom a coward and yet you resort to insulting his parenting because you're afraid of losing. That is so far out of line. @citizenthom props for maintaining your cool, I would've had some choice words if he came at me like that.
@japes16 To my opponent's credit, he did apologize soon after the debate (you can only see it on the "record" link)
Wait, nevermind, you can see it above as the "featured comment."
@japes16 A. No they aren'tB. Those women are useful idiots, and the ones leading the marches are paid by the Soros Machine to be there C. Actually yes, the same people are constantly trying to push for women running around topless as if that will have no impact on society at all, since things like common sense and facts elude feminists at every turn.
@deusvult like any movement/belief system, there are extreme sides. It is my experience that the majority of feminists are not trying to run around topless or advocating for that in any real way. I think that's more for making a statement. Those are obviously highly publicized because they are extreme but to believe that is representative of most feminists is kinda dumb on your part. Do you have any friends who are feminists?
While the statement "feminism causes more rape than it prevents" may be incorrect, feminism does create a victimhood culture and Thom admits this during the debateI thought Pepe won but makes too many generalities or absolute statements which hurts his arguments
@kperfect01 I admitted no such thing. Recognizing that a crime has indeed been committed against someone who would previously have been denied justice is not "encouraging a victim mentality."
Feminism causes rape the same way Judaism causes Nazis.
@arkle You follow me around but refuse to accept a debate. Cuck
@deusvult I would remind you that after weeks of no comments, you commented at me for no apparent reason out of the blue.I would also remind you that no one who uses the term "cuck" unironically is worth taking seriously. Ever.I would remind you further that you're the douchecanoe that thinks me having a healthy, positive relationship with my parents is something to be mocked.And in addition to all that, I have said time and again that I don't H2H with white supremacists, yet you keep trying to prod me into one. Oh, and you call me a coward while hiding your face behind a mask while pushing an anti-black, anti-woman agenda so extreme that David Duke would tell you to dial it back a little.
@arkle @yaz , didn't we agree this cuck was going to stop following me around trying to draw me into text debates if he refused to man up and defend his positions live?
@deusvult Deus, you initiated this last round of exchanges. I'll go screencap the post right now. I'll happily expose you for the little liar you are.Also, if you're so brave, why do you hide behind the racist frog mask?
@yaz Here's the comment in question. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/HonorSpider/nazifrog_zpseibava9z.jpgIf the Nazi Frog wants to get me banned he's gonna have to try harder than that.
@deusvult according to the pic @arkle shared below, you seemed to have initiated contact after we all agreed you guys stay away from each other. Unless he's wrong and he provoked you first, show me - but I won't interfere anymore, feel free to stalk each other forever for all I care. Now please let me be so I can raise some funding to keep this site alive for y'all to enjoy.
@deusvult your weak defense of your intolerant, uninformed, and flat out offensive position kind of made me sick to my stomach. And how dare you mention his kids, so out of line. Glad you apologized but it doesn't even begin to make up for it
@caratara I don't claim to be "tolerant" or think of it as a virtue, nor could I care less if you find my views offensive. That said, they are not "uninformed" but rely on a deep study and level of critical thinking of which I do not sincerely believe you are capable.
I don't know if I would take it this far, but @deusvult made better points. We should not assume that because of woman's rights in the past the movement couldn't have radicalized into a revenge culture of outcome. The Con argument is at best antidoteal here. Another example of when it might be a good idea to identity known methods of false reasoning.