Thankfully one reported called it out on the spot!
@s_benz Oh come on - he's the most demonized President in history. Sure sometimes he exaggerates but leave the man to do his frickin job already!!!!!!! His win was BIG, that's what matters (and please oh please let's not get started with the electoral vs. popular vote debate)
@ryan_t14 Sorry but your argument is not really relevant is it? The whole point here is that he lied so many times! He is supposed to be the President, the person that everyone looks up to, the person that people are supposed to trust, the person to give you the RIGHT information and not random stuff that he reads on the tabloids!
@ryan_t14 "Oh come on - he's the most demonized President in history."*LOL* Oh, wait, you're serious. Let me laugh even harder *ROFLMAO*"Sure sometimes he exaggerates "You misspelled 'lies'."His win was BIG, "No it wasn't; lost the popular vote by 3 million, and his EC victory didn't even crack the Top 40."(and please oh please let's not get started with the electoral vs. popular vote debate)"Yeah, let's not tell the truth about Trump. That seems to get you really upset.
@ryan_t14 I wouldn't call his victory big 40% of americans 90 million Americans choose not to vote,he lost the popular vote 3 million. More people voted for mitt Romney and Jhon McCain than Donald Trump.
@jackson23 sure but I'm talking more about the fact that he created a movement like no other and he won against all odds!
@ryan_t14 what movement.?
@jackson23 The Trump movement! He gave voice to a crowd that has been suppressed for a long time, he bypassed traditional politics and talked straight to the people and what they need.
@ryan_t14 "He gave voice to a crowd that has been suppressed for a long time,"Yep. So glad we finally have a President who speaks directly to egottistical Nazis.
@arkle Are you calling almost half of Americans "Nazis"???! You can kick and scream as much as you want and call Americans names but the truth is that Trump does speak on behalf of lots of us
@ryan_t14 " Are you calling almost half of Americans "Nazis"???!"No, just the 62.2 million who voted for Trump.That's not almost half. That's almost 1/5th. 19.5%."You can kick and scream as much as you want and call Americans names but the truth is that Trump does speak on behalf of lots of us"And that's what scares me. He speaks for the wannabe victims who need to see themselves as oppressed so they don't have to admit that they screwed themselves by continuing to vote for people who screw them over because those people who're screwing them over are White and (claim to be) Christian and they treat politics like football; their team always no matter what.He speaks to white supremacists. He speaks to anti-Semites. He speaks to date rapists, ephebophiles, thieves, con artists, and war profiteers.And you think this is awesome. This makes you a bad person.
@arkle He also speaks to businesspeople, people who deal with foreign countries, college grads, Ph.Ds, high-ranking individuals. You condemn stereotyping and categorizing/labelling large groups of people and yet you do that to Trump supporters!! Seems a little hypocritical to me
@ryan_t14 you're impossible.
@ryan_t14 ".He also speaks to businesspeople, people who deal with foreign countries, college grads, Ph.Ds, high-ranking individuals"You say that as if being those things are mutually exclusive from being racist and misogynistic."You condemn stereotyping and categorizing/labelling large groups of people and yet you do that to Trump supporters!! Seems a little hypocritical to me"You call it hypocritical, yet you support a President who ran on labeling large groups of people as "terrorists," or "lazy," or "paid protyestors." You seem like a Right Wing Nut Job to me.
Who had a larger vote count?
@gigi To be fair, he said I guess.
@meta_self :-) He is the President of the US giving a press conference to clarify rumors that have brought the whole world in turmoil.. The one thing that he had to do is NOT to guess but provide accurate information to the relevant questions. Anyways, that was nothing compared to the rest of the things that he said.
@gigi It was a press conference. The responses are off the cuff. How else would he prepare to answer questions he doesn't know?What else did he say which threantnens you?
@meta_self Threaten me?? Not at all. Just insulted my intelligence. This was a press conference that he asked for and none of the questions was a surprise. My understanding is that his job was to clarify misunderstandings and set the record straight given that he is supposed to be the only one who knows what's happening inside his administration. Firstly, he was never asked about his victory (he won, so let's just move on to the real business) so it was his choice to give this inaccurate information, he was not caught off guard.Secondly, he never really answered any of the questions even though they were expected.
@gigi It was a guess, so you can't hold him accountable for that. He answered all the questions during the press confrence. His job is to uphold the constitution and enforce federal policies, and not to avoid making guesses.
@meta_self As I said, he was never asked to guess anything like that so why did he decided to give this random false information with no reason? Look this is just a detail. And to be honest I don't even think that he is constantly lying on purpose. He seems to live in a different world and really believe his lies so how can you blame him? And i'm not even going to comment on his policies, everyone has the right to be conservative/ liberal/ anarchist whatever. This would be a normal and healthy debate to have. I'm only commenting on him being the President, the role model that everyone looks up to and his behavior is not such. Bashing the media, not providing information for critical issues, avoiding questions and ranting like a 5 years old, lying, are all cool campaign tactics but I was hoping to see a grown up as a President. So that we finally have a chance to talk about his work and not his erratic behavior. And don't get me wrong he has a point on everything he says but you need to decide in what type of country you want to live. Democracy is inefficient, requires consensus (which takes time), transparency and definitely includes tough public criticism. So either you take the whole package or you move to an authoritarian model where one person makes decisions and no one has the right to speak.
@gigi Guessing isn't bad. You assume the public is incompetent in discriminating information. I don't follow your logic of how his (at worst) faux pas leads to authoritarianism... What I find to be the real issue is how the media can openly call him and his team a slur of derogatory terms from racist to bigoted, without any rhyme or reason. Leading children to believe he is evil is what is really disturbing. That's child abuse.
@meta_self Not sure why you keep talking about the guessing... My question is why he chose to give an irrelevant answer with false information on something that he was never asked. Are you pulling a Trump giving random answers? :-) Everyone can guess but not the person in charge. Imagine a CEO guessing his financials results in an investors meeting. I'm not assuming anything about the public. Just recognize their right to transparency and truth.Authoritarian regimes characteristics: 1) limited political pluralism; that is, such regimes place constraints on political institutions and groups like legislatures, political parties and interest groups;/ remember these so called judges and the evil circuit2) a basis for legitimacy based on emotion, especially the identification of the regime as a necessary evil to combat "easily recognizable societal problems" such as underdevelopment or insurgency;/ remember rants and constant feeling of being the victim, exaggeration of how bad the country is, claims about increased security risks and terror spread without providing substance3) minimal social mobilization most often caused by constraints on the public such as suppression of political opponents and anti-regime activity; / not yet there but be patient4) informally defined executive power with often vague and shifting powers / I'm totally confused of who is doing what...is it the WH? CIA? FBI? the courts? the Trump family and crew who have no experience in politics?Sure media are media and I agree with you that lots of the times they will criticize severely, make personal attacks, exaggerate. This has always been the case and every President, celebrity and public figure has gotten a taste of it. But this is freedom of speech and democracy, hence if you don't like that then you need to re-write the Constitution. Also, since you assume that public is competent to discriminate information then no issues with the criticism, right? For the President to focus on this (always selectively while sponsoring his favorite media outlets), rather than the real issues of the country is a bit weird at the very least. This was his chance to shine, to show that media are biased and evil by answering the questions and just pretend to be the PresidentNo idea how the children abuse comes into this. Unless you are referring to the President being a child and being abused by the media? :-)
@gigi He isn't guessing about policy. He is giving a tangential point to an answer. If anything, it shows that he speaks his mind and not anyone else's. I'm sorry Gigi but applying those four points to the present situation is delusional. I can understand that you may disagree with him, but saying he will become a dictator is ludicrous. This is not the case with every president. Obama had a honeymoon with the media for almost two years before they gave any criticism. What other public person has all major news outlets publishing rumors (e.g. pissgate) that resemble tabloid headlines?I'm referring to adults telling children that TRUMP wants to hurt or kill minorities and will become a dictator. Telling children this is child abuse as it puts them in a paranoid situation.
@meta_self hahah ok everyone should be making their own judgements just please don't assume things that I never said because it's convenient to victimize him and easier to dodge arguments. I totally respect your view and everyone (at least for now) can decide who wants to represent them. If yesterday's press conference and the last month is a representation of the society that you want to live in and Trump is the person that you trust to be in charge, then fair enough.It just makes me wonder what are the limits? i.e. is there anything that the current administration could do so that you start questioning them?
@gigi People are always questioning him. He was questioned yesturday! lolWhere do you get this idea that he is trying to be all powerful?
@meta_self ???? When did I say that? I just asked you what are your limits? What would make you question him? Forget media and the rest. I'm talking personally is there anything that would make you question his administration and him as individual?
@gigi If he radically alters his policies and changes his goal of USA first, then I would reproach.
@meta_self mmm can you be a bit more specific? I never really understood what America first means. It has been first for decades.. And generally speaking it's easy to just set goals and say big words. Implementation and execution is what it matters, right? So how far are you willing to go to obtain these big high level goals? Start a war? Maybe two? Stop the war? Collide with enemies and killers? Change the Constitution? I'm not saying that he will do all these things of course, I just wonder what is more important for you and for the public. Reach the goal no matter how?
@gigi It means that trade and foreign policy will have the interests and needs of Americans considered first. For instance, paying to protect other nations with our military, having lopsided trade deals, and treating illegal immigrants (in many cases) better than veterans (more access to resources) are examples of the opposite. I don't see how starting a war fits into any of his policies. ISIS, though, needs to be dealt with. They are a huge threat to the free world. Changing the constitution would be the last thing Trump does, as his platform is founded on that very document and upholding it. I'm not a utilitarian. I'm a deontologist when it comes to ethics. Therefore, following the law (except the drug war ;P) and upholding rights are imperative. No goal can justify breaking these conditions.
@meta_self don't forget all the illegals that voted.
@trmpus Do you have any evidence? Cause POTUS has not so maybe you have more insight on the government.
He said "I guess...".
Yes a prime example is he ranted against free trade but this is billionaire that imports from aboardDavid Letterman Exposes Donald Trump - YouTube [1:27] ( https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SYoOPgeTMQc ) and the people in the rust belt who voted him got conned.