@deusvult, I've never met a single Christian who would disagree with this proposition.
@chasuk I have. There are a couple at my church who are fanatical in their belief that the Bible is inerrant, has never changed, and to question any part of it is the same thing as heresy. It's incredibly annoying.
@deusvult: Respectfully, those are not incompatible beliefs. I was raised attending churches where the standard belief was that the Bible was inerrant, but I promise, they still believed that salvation came through Christ. In fact, in the US, this is a very common belief.I suggest revising the …
@chasuk Well, the part about works is different from what I am talking about. I am talking specifically about the blatant contradictions not only between the Old and New Testaments, but even WITHIN them, which fundamentalists can never explain and dismiss with meaningless catchphrases like "just …
I completely agree. You may also wish to propose "faith in Christ not Faith in the Church"
@nellyj That's a very good point and I wholeheartedly agree.
"Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God. Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love." -1 John 4:7-8@deusvult do you believe you are showing love with your flippant remarks about rape?
@max Not sure which remarks you're talking about, and are you showing love for God by promoting sin and telling people that homosexuality is A-OK?
@deusvult I do not believe I am promoting sin, by definition. If you take a minute to introspect I don't see how you couldn't see what you mean - That snarky "gotcha" attitude where you throw down remarks like "feminism is just rape fetishism" is not you loving people.
@max Sure it is. While you're busy lying to them that sin will get them into Heaven, I'm telling them the truth to protect them from the evil social engineers trying to brainwash the innocent into believing in harmful lies like feminism. I have zero doubt of which of the two of us will have won …
@deusvult Revelation 2-3 contains several messages to Churches throughout Asia Minor.One of those churches, Ephesus, is praised for standing against evil but condemned for having "abandoned the love that [they] had at first". God threatens to remove their lampstand from its place, banishing them …
To reiterate, it has nothing to do with people's feelings. I legitimately believe what I say, and I believe it is Biblical.
@max Thank you for demonstrating once again why I made that "Not An Argument" sign for you. You lie to people and teach a false gospel that sin is acceptable to God. You lie to people that feminism is anything more than Satanic social engineering. I tell them the hard truth because I care more …
@max Also, the Bible has several different opinions on what salvation means because it's a wildly inconsistent set of documents, both between the two Testaments and within them as well.
Satanic social engineering xD Just because I disagree with you doesnt mean I am lying.Since you believe the Bible is so overwhelmingly unreliable, how do you know homosexuality is a sin?
@deusvult I also tell the hard truth. Thats why I am here calling out your lack of love for your fellow human beings. We just disagree on some points of theology.
@max I already answered this in our debate. If there is one thing in the Bible that is more consistent than anything else, it's God's disdain for homosexuals and sexual immorality in general. I don't necessarily think God sees it as worse than regular promiscuity, but it's clear as day that it …
@deusvult Wow, really? You think the 6 maybe half mentions of homosexuality in the Bible are THE MOST consistent point in the Bible? That's your belief? Really?
Oh look, I got you to admit that the Bible talks about homosexuality. I suspected you were being deliberately misleading by insisting "muh translation is wrong" and now I have proof.
@deusvult I guess we will need to teach you words like "maybe" and "half". Talking about homosexuality is not the same as condemning it as objectively immoral.
@deusvult Dishonestly representing my words as a dodge to a point so that you can justify oppressing an innocent class of people is a great example of you not showing the kind of love you are called to show
@max My love for the world is demonstrated by my endless war against brainless, stupid, dishonest Marxist puppets and the lies they spread to people out of fear and envy. You took the Bible and perverted it into some kind of meaningless social justice platform. You are masquerading as a "Christian …
@ajgibson0418 what day/time works for you? @deusvult , you have an opponent!
I am free most evenings
@ajgibson0418 How about this coming Thursday evening at 6pm Pacific?
@deusvult I have my tournament debate that night