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  • 3 years ago

    How would the presence of more people who think like Hitler invalidate analogies demonstrating those people are thinking like Hitler.

  • 3 years ago

    Do people really use that as an excuse to say they've won an argument? In my opinion people should just avoid Hitler comparisons altogether...

  • 3 years ago

    Compairing someone to Hitler is not an argument.

    I disagree with the contention that white supremacy, the idea that whites are entitiled to more rights and are inherently superiour to all other groups, is not a popular one, nor is it escalating.

  • 3 years ago

    Godwin's law was never an "effective debate point." Invoking Hitler or Nazi germany can be a valid debate point. The real problem is its overuse to apply to anybody they don't like in absurd ways, such as in this post itself.

    • 3 years ago

      @nellyj I agree with you here. @arkle I have to say, you do overuse the comparison to Hitler/Nazi Germany. That being said, Godwin's law shouldnt be a reason why anyone wins a debate

    • 3 years ago

      @ldempsy "I have to say, you do overuse the comparison to Hitler/Nazi Germany."

      Yeah, where do I get off comparing the guy whose supporters are literal Nazis, and who uses the pro-Nazi "America First" slogan from the 1930s, and enacts the same anti-immigrant "publishing crime lists" the Nazis did before they opened the death camps, and...

    • 3 years ago

      @arkle Is everyone who wants free education a Bernie supporter? No, so not everyone who voted for Trump is a Nazi. Painting people with broad brushes goes both ways. Even I have faith that there are Trump supporters out there who are still good people.

      I'm gay, so naturally I REALLY don't like Trump. But I don't call people (even a few friends) who voted for him Nazis because stereotyping large groups of people is something I've been a victim of my whole life so I refuse to do it to anyone else, even if I can claim a moral high ground.

      When they go low, we go high. So stop going low

    • 3 years ago

      @ldempsy "When they go low, we go high."

      Yea, beucase that's what we need to fight creeping fascism and whtie supremacy. Bumper sticker slogans.

      Sorry, but if your (and Michelle Obama's since that was her line) naive optimisim could work, we wouldn't have a KKK endorsed serial sexual predator in the White House right now.

      "Agree to disagree" is for people who have differing opinions on what the top marginal tax rate should be. Not for people who think we should deny health care to people with breast cancer beucase they had acne as a kid (look that up; it happened) or that transgender women should be forced into men's bathrooms where they're likely to be assaulted or even killed or that the marriages of millions of Americans shoulod be invalidated because someone in power thinks two dudes kissing is gross and I could go on and on.

      F*** fascists, and f*** the milquetoast Liberals who think that we can just debate them into changing their minds. You're not bringing a knife to a gun fight, you're bringing words to an all-out war.

    • 3 years ago

      @arkle I don't pretend that not being hateful will change anything or get Trump kicked out of office. But do you know what also doesn't help? Calling people names and then expecting them to listen to you.

      Neither of us is going about it in a way that will make any real change so how can we take action?

      Contacting lawmakers and representatives, fundraising for candidates we support, what else? (serious question, instead of arguing let's develop an actual plan)

    • 3 years ago

      @arkle making Stupid statements like "we have a KKK endorsed serial sexual predator in the White House" shows your lack of any ability to Reason and proves you have nothing intelligent to offer especially since that person was in the WH from 1993-2001 and your candidate, HRC, openly and excitedly praised and endorsed a KKK Grand Klansman senator.

    • 3 years ago

      @ldempsy why would you not like Trump, by far the most pro-gay president in history? That's the reason most conservatives didn't fully endorse him.

    • 3 years ago

      @nellyj Donald Trump was endorsed by the KKK newspaper. people who are in the Klan now.

      Hillary was supported by a FORMER Klansmen who spent the last half of his ENTIRE LIFE repudiating the group.

      You are a liar. Delete your account.

      Nothing I said about Trump is a lie. He has bragged about his sexual assault. The KKK of today endorsed him.

      The only one incapabale of reason here is you. The one with nothing intelligent to offer is you.

    • 3 years ago

      @nellyj "why would you not like Trump, by far the most pro-gay president in history? That's the reason most conservatives didn't fully endorse him."

      This is a lie. A pathetic lie, from a pathetic man, who supports a pathetic President.

    • 3 years ago

      @arkle LoL I love how you dimwitted, intolerant, leftists (I repeat myself) will forgive your side's despicable criminals for anything but never forget the lies you make up about your opposition and are so wrapped up in your propeganda you lose track of reality no matter what happens or what they do. Not surprised at all.

    • 3 years ago

      @nellyj You call me dimwitted, yet you can't tell the difference between one man who rejected the KKK decades ago and people who are in the KKK now.

      Also, the only one lying about Trump is you. You're the one who called him the most pro-gay President ever, even though anyone with more than two brain cells to rub cell (i.e. anyone who didn't vote for Trump) can tell you that his actions since the Inaguration alone (let alone shit he was saying during the campaign) prove otherwise.

      BTW, don't bring my side's "despicable criminals" when one of your last Speakers of the House was a literal pedophile.

    • 3 years ago

      @nellyj let me introduce you to his pick for VP, Mike Pence. Also, conservative Supreme Court pick Neil Gorsuch. Need I say more?