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  • 2 years ago

    The media doesn't have to 'hunt' for anything. Trump keeps giving them things to report on. They cover what is happening in the White House, and that happens to be a lot of messed up and newsworthy stuff. Trump is a narcissist who thinks the world is out to get him.

    • 2 years ago

      @caratara I agree that the position of President warrants you to serious scrutiny now you make mention of messed up stuff happening in the White House. For you to conclude this after watching any media channel exposes the bias you have been exposed to which is why I don't believe in this day an age the media has an objective agenda in it's broadcast of information. You claim that the news is reporting newsworthy stuff really? so presenting information that tears down the concept of innocent until proven guilty is by your standards newsworthy. A disregard and a willingness to tear down the basic standards of evidence and facts is by any objective account an immoral basis to strip someone of their individual rights or position of authority in which they earned. I thought it was England courts that say "Your guilty until proven innocent"?

  • 2 years ago

    Nope. He's a bad President, and a bad person, and you suck for supporting him.

    No, really, I mean that with utter sincereity. He is objectively terrible. Casually gives away state secrets to foreign powers, lies, wastes money doing things he accused President Obama of doing (that Obama didn't actually do), sexually harasses married women, has cheated on at least two occasions that we know of (hence his divorces), violated the emoluments clause of the Constitution, engages in nepotism, has been sued multiple times for fraud and racial discrimination over the course of 40 years...

    I could honestly go on and on. At this point, I think it is perfectly reasonable to question both the intelligence AND morality of anyone who still supports this man.

    Or to paraphrase a cartoon doctor, Your President is bad and you should feel bad!

    • 2 years ago

      @arkle No, really, I mean that with utter sincereity. He is objectively terrible. Casually gives away state secrets to foreign powers, lies, wastes money doing things he accused President Obama of doing (that Obama didn't actually do), sexually harasses married women, has cheated on at least two occasions that we know of (hence his divorces), violated the emoluments clause of the Constitution, engages in nepotism, has been sued multiple times for fraud and racial discrimination over the course of 40 years...

      So you draw conclusions on pending investigations, combine his presidency with his past personal life before running for president, substantiated various clams that come from subjective sources but never entirely verified. Can you debate and discuss issues chronologically without sharing all irrelevant information that doesn't relate to Donald Trump's presidency I noticing that's a habit.

    • 2 years ago

      @bashee7 "combine his presidency with his past personal life before running for president,"

      Well, yes. Why do you think I should ignore what he was like in the 40 years he's been a public figure?

      "substantiated various clams that come from subjective sources but never entirely verified."

      This is a lie. I cite journalists and studies.

      "Can you debate and discuss issues chronologically without sharing all irrelevant information that doesn't relate to Donald Trump's presidency I noticing that's a habit."

      Do you even know what the word chronologically means? Because the way you use it you seem to imply that my arguments against Trump are invalid not because they are wrong, but because I didn't share them in the order they happened.

      As for it being irrelevant, this is just another lie You only think it doesn't matter becuase it paints your new Godking in a bad light. Just keep on drinking that Kool-Aid bashee.

  • 2 years ago

    Have you been living under a rock during the Obama presidency? Seriously, have you seen what FOX did?

  • 2 years ago

    Definition for Bias: "A partiality that prevents objective consideration of an issue or situation" In simpler terms Bias is a person's preferred way of seeing the world Bias's will impede anyone' ability to see something for what it really is. Perfect example election week and election night the media committed to a strategy of trying to convince the public that it wasn't going to be worth it to go out and vote let alone vote for Donald trump because he was way behind Clinton to win the election. Trump did run a very unorthodox campaign but it seems from all evidence I can mention if I was not trying to overwhelm all of you that since Trump has launched his presidential campaign the deck has been stacked against him

    • 2 years ago

      @bashee7 The deck has been stacked against him? On what Earth? Definitely not this one. Maybe the Earth where the dinosaurs never died out, or where we still use zeppelins, but here on Earth-1 Trump has had it easy AF his entire life. Rich daddy, free press coverage, white male privilege, I could go on and on.

      "$4.96 billion in free earned media in the year leading up to the presidential election, according to data from tracking firm mediaQuant. He received $5.6 billion throughout the entirety of his campaign, more than Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, Ted Cruz, Paul Ryan and Marco Rubio combined."

      Source: https://www.thestreet.com/story/13896916/1/donald-trump-rode-5-billion-in-free-media-to-the-white-house.html

      If that's your definition of a stacked deck, we should all be so lucky to have the media "stacked against us."

    • 2 years ago

      Let's not start discussing Trump's entire biography that wasn't the original point I was addressing let's not side track. If we watch CNN, MSNBC, and ABC they share their news reports in a manner like hey guess what trouble Trump is stirring up now. Free Media coverage you claim, I guarantee you if anchors in media and those they work with if they didn't see a profit in giving trump coverage for greater ratings would of stopped once he began getting nasty with them which is quite a scene to watch. Trump never asked for this coverage how about you reference those sources Media voluntarily gave him coverage because people were inspired by his message and so it's the duty of any sales organization to give customers what they demand in any election season updates on Trump's public comments etc. I've seen many commentaries where news anchors endorse he run as an independent, affirmed it'll be a contested convention, I mean you even had celebrity's in Hollywood and professional sports investing their time to be guest on media channels to encourage their fans to not vote for Trump, and those same celebrities were at Clinton's campaign endorsing her. Please if you deny these are decks being stacked in subtle ways to influence the human conscience you are validating the very definition I gave for Bias.

    • 2 years ago

      Most Media, the political establishment, and most celebrity's didn't want to see Donald Trump become president that's what I mean by deck stacked against him. That's the context I was addressing I rather stay in that context. Your comments that Donald Trump is a bad president, and human being exposes the venom you have towards him and it is clear to me from the way you treated the previous person who commented on your post you will condemn anyone who challenges your assertions. Now I would like to ask why is it on a site like this you must attach labels to someone who challenges your presuppositions? Disrespecting them and telling them that they suck for disagreeing with you how is that tolerant towards an even exchange of ideas? Since when does disagreeing with ideas warrant for the one who's ideas are being challenged to doubt the intelligence of the one challenging them?

    • 2 years ago

      @arkle Please clarify what your trying to communicate in the last post that we should all be so lucky to have the media "stacked against us" I don't follow the logic nor do I understand despite the efforts i'm making to comprehend what your trying to communicate.

    • 2 years ago

      @arkle Let's not start discussing Trump's entire biography that wasn't the original point I was addressing let's not side track. If we watch CNN, MSNBC, and ABC they share their news reports in a manner like hey guess what trouble Trump is stirring up now. Free Media coverage you claim, I guarantee you if anchors in media and those they work with if they didn't see a profit in giving trump coverage for greater ratings would of stopped once he began getting nasty with them which is quite a scene to watch. Trump never asked for this coverage how about you reference those sources Media voluntarily gave him coverage because people were inspired by his message and so it's the duty of any sales organization to give customers what they demand in any election season updates on Trump's public comments etc. I've seen many commentaries where news anchors endorse he run as an independent, affirmed it'll be a contested convention, I mean you even had celebrity's in Hollywood and professional sports investing their time to be guest on media channels to encourage their fans to not vote for Trump, and those same celebrities were at Clinton's campaign endorsing her. Please if you deny these are decks being stacked in subtle ways to influence the human conscience you are validating the very definition I gave for Bias

    • 2 years ago

      @arkle Most Media, the political establishment, and most celebrity's didn't want to see Donald Trump become president that's what I mean by deck stacked against him. That's the context I was addressing I rather stay in that context. Your comments that Donald Trump is a bad president, and human being exposes the venom you have towards him and it is clear to me from the way you treated the previous person who commented on your post you will condemn anyone who challenges your assertions. Now I would like to ask why is it on a site like this you must attach labels to someone who challenges your presuppositions? Disrespecting them and telling them that they suck for disagreeing with you how is that tolerant towards an even exchange of ideas? Since when does disagreeing with ideas warrant for the one who's ideas are being challenged to doubt the intelligence of the one challenging them?

    • 2 years ago

      @bashee7 "Your comments that Donald Trump is a bad president, and human being exposes the venom you have towards him and it is clear to me from the way you treated the previous person who commented on your post you will condemn anyone who challenges your assertions."

      And it never occurred to you for a second that that venom was earned? Like, at all? Are you really that incapable of any thought beyond your own brain farts?

      You are not a challenge to my assertions, only my patience.

    • 2 years ago

      @bashee7 "Trump never asked for this coverage"

      This is such a bald faced lie I have to laugh at how pathetic you are that you think I'd take it seriously. Might as well try to convince me that the Earth is flat Cheeto Jesus played the media, then he played fools like you into thinking the media was "treating him unfairly." And because you are a very stupid person, you buy it hook line and sinker.

      "Media voluntarily gave him coverage because people were inspired by his message "

      White supremacists were inspired by his message. When he had a message. This guy you admire so much would say one thing to one crowd, then another to another crowd, and dipsticks like you would cheer him both times, willfully ignoring (or too stupid to notice) the contradiction.

      Hell, one time, he contradicted himself to the smae crowd, and they still cheered! http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865647738/Trump-both-for-and-against-Common-Core-Candidate-flip-flops-three-minutes-later-in-speech.html You are not a thinking persion, you are a member of a cult.

      "Please if you deny these are decks being stacked in subtle ways to influence the human conscience you are validating the very definition I gave for Bias."

      The deck was being stacked. FOR Trump. As I've already demonstrated. That Nazi-sympathizing, sexual predator you voted for. He is scum. And you by association are scum for continuing to support him.

    • 2 years ago

      @bashee7 Sure, liberal news has covered Trump in that way. But that would only be unfair if the conservative news didn't do the same exact thing for the oppostie side...

    • 2 years ago

      @arkle And it never occurred to you for a second that that venom was earned?
      It obviously didn't. Can you explain to me the universal criteria to justify hatred towards a presidential candidate?

      Like, at all? Are you really that incapable of any thought beyond your own brain farts?

      Help me to understand your critical analysis that justifies hatred of a particular candidate? I'm critically thinking and in any election I know I can dislike a candidates stance on issues, but to extend beyond that to degrading them as human being without demonstrating any inhumane policy proposals he or she advocates I find to be rationally indefensible and not as a result of your name calling.

    • 2 years ago

      @bashee7 "Help me to understand your critical analysis that justifies hatred of a particular candidate? "

      His words, his actions, and his policies. You know, stuff he has done that has/will harm people. Much of it available on the public record. In video form even.

      The question isn't "How can I hate Trump so much," it's how can you NOT hate him?

    • 2 years ago

      @pokemaster Your point is valid in respect to policy criticisms, I disagree in regards to ad hominem attacks. Let's take for instance the recent Kathy Griffin stunt. Can you imagine if it'd been Obama's head on any news outlet that opposes his views and policies?

    • 2 years ago

      @bashee7 Uh, dumbass, did you forget that Donald Trump invited Ted Nugent to the White House? A man who made actual threats against President Obama and Hillary Clinton? GTFO with your false equivalency BS.

      And by the way, I don't need to imagine anyone doing anything similar to Obama. I've seen the pictures that Right Wing lickspittles like you pretend don't exist so you can convince yourselves you're not useless liars who are a drain on society and progress.

      Do a Google search for images of Obama being hung or burned in effigy sometime. Happened a lot. Funny how the Right Wing just sort of "forgets" those when it's their guy it happens to. It's almost as if Right Wingers were a bunch of liars.

    • 2 years ago

      @arkle Uh, dumbass, did you forget that Donald Trump invited Ted Nugent to the White House? A man who made actual threats against President Obama and Hillary Clinton? GTFO with your false equivalency BS
      And we were discussing along the context of notable news reporters since when was Ted Nugent a news reporter?

    • 2 years ago

      @bashee7 Since when was Kathy Griffin? She's a comedian.

    • 2 years ago

      @arkle Correction I meant to write since when di Ted Nugent have any gig with any notable news station that advocates his political views? Kathy had a New year's gig with a notable news station that shares her views.

    • 2 years ago

      @bashee7 "Correction I meant to write since when di Ted Nugent have any gig with any notable news station that advocates his political views?"

      He shows up on Fox News quite a bit. Many times after his death threats, and his frequent racist comments. Not just about the President, but about Native Americans as well.

      "Kathy had a New year's gig with a notable news station that shares her views."

      Replace "that shares her views" with "because she's friends with Anderson Cooper," and your statement actually becomes 100% true.

    • 2 years ago

      @arkle What specific policies?

    • 2 years ago

      @bashee7 Do a Google search on Ted Nugent and Fox News.

  • 2 years ago

    They never went after the problems of other presidents. Like Obama's drone killings or the Bush administration's failures on 9/11.

    • 2 years ago

      @meta_self No, they just went after Obama for using mustard and having a tan suit.

    • 2 years ago

      @arkle Not the MSM.

    • 2 years ago

      @meta_self Oh, so you're admitting that Fox News is Right Wing eh? Never thought I'd see the day. Figured you were still one of those dummies who thinsk they are actually "Fair & Balanced." :)

    • 2 years ago

      @arkle Fox news is still MSM despite being right leaning.

    • 2 years ago

      @meta_self You call Fox News mainstream. You say that mainstream media didn't go after Obama over non-scandals. Yet, Fox did do just that, so that means you are saying the MSM both did and didn't go after Obama over non-scandals.

      Schroedinger's* got nothing on you.


      * For the Trump voters who read this, no, Schroedinger is NOT the piano player from the Peanuts comic strips.

    • 2 years ago

      @arkle Not to the extent they are going after Trump now.

      There was a complete media honeymoon for the first year and a half.

    • 2 years ago

      @meta_self "Not to the extent they are going after Trump now."

      And because you are an idiot you fail to notice that Trump has brought this on himself with all his flagrant abuses of power and diplomatic gaffes.

      See, here's the thing you would understand if you could get your tongue out of Trump's ass for five seconds; when public figures do bad and/or incompetent things in public, the media will often report on them. And when said public figure is in a position as powerful and important as the Presidency of the United States, NOT reporting on it would be a dereliction of duty to keep the American people informed.

      "There was a complete media honeymoon for the first year and a half."

      Obama also didn't piss off a bunch of our closest allies in the first year and a half. And he didn't reveal the locations of our subamrines to a brutal Southeast Asian dictator in the first year and a half. And he didn't fail to nominate people to numerous positions in the cabinet then blame the opposition party for said positions not being full yet in the first year and a half. And he didn't lie about the crowd size and weather at his inaguaration in the first year and a half.

      Do I need to go on?

      Not that I expect you to grasp my point. You are literally too stupid to understand what I am getting at. I already know your reply to this will be some false equivlanecy nonsense made to defend the sexual predator and racist you voted for.

    • 2 years ago

      @arkle You're shifting the goalpost.

      Obama had his issues and they didn't go after him a tenth as much. FFS Obama killed American cittizens.

    • 2 years ago

      @meta_self "You're shifting the goalpost. "

      Oh joy, you learned a new phrase. I expect to see this used repeatedly even in situations where it can't possibly apply. *sigh*

      Such as now, where I am doing no such thing. Unless you think "shifting the goalpost" means "trying to get through some Trump Bot's thick skull."

      "Obama had his issues and they didn't go after him a tenth as much."

      Citation needed.

      "FFS Obama killed American cittizens."

      Which people like you were totes okay with when those American citizens were the sons of suspected Islamic extremists.

      As for deaths, Trump has gotten Americans killed too. Remember the botched raid in Yemen that the orange Face Shitgibbon tried to blame on Obama? He also got children killed there too, but those children aren't Americans so I doubt their deaths meant anything to you anymore than the kids killed by Obama's drone strikes mean anything to you except in cases where you think you can use them as a "gotcha" against liberals.

    • 2 years ago

      @arkle That wasn't on purpose. Obama targeted those individuals specifically. It wasn't a case of friendly fire or collateral damage.

    • 2 years ago

      @meta_self "That wasn't on purpose."

      Just when I think your defenses of Cheeto Jesus can't get any more pathetic you break out an argument that I learned doesn't work back in Middle School.

    • 2 years ago

      @arkle You have no argument now.

    • 2 years ago

      @meta_self "You have no argument now."

      The problem isn't me lacking an argument. It's you lacking the ability to understand anything more complicated than a 1960s Archie comic.

      Trump mis getting bad press becuase he is doing bad things. Period. Your complaints here are little more than whining. A child who cries because he got caught doing something and was rightly punsihed is one thing, but you are crying for someone else getting caught doing something bad and... well, hell Trump isn't actually being punished, not yet anyway. People are just pointing out what he's doing. That's actually even more pathetic.

    • 2 years ago

      @arkle If Trump holds the rail when he walks they will wake a news piece on it.

    • 2 years ago

      @meta_self "If Trump holds the rail when he walks they will wake a news piece on it."

      Haven't seen any news pieces about rails. I have seen pieces about him blowing an Israeli intelligence operative's cover, though.

      http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/05/19/israeli-intelligence-furious-over-trumps-loose-lips-russia-iran-syria/

    • 2 years ago

      @arkle Here's what you missed:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpyEKfhikrA

    • 2 years ago

      @meta_self Ew, why did you send me a link to Mark Dice? He's terrible. Find me an actual journalist and maybe I'll take your claim seriously.

      Oh wait, you hate actual journalists. They tell the truth about your Daddy Trump. Nevermind.

    • 2 years ago

      @arkle I guess you can't see the article referenced.

      But of course, your mind is as closed in as a wall. Your bias can't allow you to see any truth from someone you don't like.

    • 2 years ago

      @meta_self "But of course, your mind is as closed in as a wall."

      Says the climate change denier who still thinks the Mexican border wall can work (or will even actually attempted).

      "Your bias can't allow you to see any truth from someone you don't like."

      You just described yourself. Literally, you just described yourself. You constantly ignore any information that shows Trump to be a liar and/or a bigot. CONSTANTLY!

      I think you should be abnned from this website. Honestly. One of the mission statements of this site is "Tearing down bullshit." And your arguments are built on a foundation of bullshit, walled with bullshit, with bullshit shingles on the roof and bullshit furniture in the living room.

    • 2 years ago

      @meta_self *sigh* You do know that if he were real The Dude would hate you, right? As I recall he wasn't fond of liars and racists. Not as passionately as me of course, but I let it slide since he's fictional.

    • 2 years ago

      @arkle The dude doesn't hate. Anger and hate is for people who cannot think clearly.

    • 2 years ago

      @meta_self "Anger and hate is for people who cannot think clearly."

      Lazy bumper sticker thinking. When someone is actually hurting you and/or those you care about, you have every right to be angry at them and hate them Would you tell a battered spouse that if she hates her husband she's "as bad she is?"

      Oh, wait, no. You'd vote for her abuser to be President. Nevermind.

    • 2 years ago

      @arkle lol you're being hunted now? 0_o

    • 2 years ago

      @meta_self "lol you're being hunted now? 0_o"

      You didn't read the whole paragrpah did you? I can see why though. It's more than one sentence. That's clearly too much for you to wrap your head around all at once. That's why you love Trump so much. He can't understand things with a lot of words in them either.

      http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/02/classified-memo-tells-intelligence-analysts-keep-trumps-daily-brief-short

    • 2 years ago

      @arkle So you're liked a battered woman because you hate?

    • 2 years ago

      @meta_self "So you're liked a battered woman because you hate?"

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH_qR33qHp4

    • 2 years ago

      @arkle And you couldn't say that yourself?

      They're behind you!!!!!

  • 2 years ago

    Trump is his own worst enemy

    • 2 years ago

      These days, it comes with the territory of being President. He should have understood that when he ran. It happened to Obama, it happened to Bush, to Clinton and so on and so forth. Granted this election has been particularly toxic.