It depends on what "fundamentally" refers to. If it refers to the importance of the subject, I'd lean towards agreement. However, if it means on the same level of objective truth as science or math, I think that that's ridiculous.
@jeffery95014 Interesting angle...
@jeffery95014 science is not an objective truth. Science is a process, action or activity. This activity then leads to scientific fact. Philosophy is like science an activity. Philosophy is the "to think" science is "to do". They are equally as valuable and nothing without the other.Is stoicism, a fact? No... but is learning how to question and observe using logic, reason, imagination gonna lead to a world of better equipped people? Yes.Gym is a fundamental class taught and required in every grade.History is a fundamental class taught in every grade.Philosophy needs to be taught in schools.
@chancellorkingsmyth That's a fair point.I would say that Gym is worthless when taught incorrectly, and too often it is.
What philosophy?I'd rather they learn critical thinking and logic first.
@meta_self that's like asking what science. Philosophy is not a specific belief if thought. It's the process of thought
@chancellorkingsmyth You know there is no standard philosophical school right? Just look at the divide between analytical and continental philosophy for example.
@meta_self Cool. That's part of philosophy. Do research before you write off philosophy as worthless.
@andrewzlee Who said anything was worthless?
@meta_self yeah I think that your position wasn't to teach any particular philosophical position but rather to teach individuals to be better philosophers....if this is true then it seems there is no disagreement here
Totally agree. Philosophy isn't just people trying to determine what is ethically correct, but also the right steps to take to determine what "correct" means, how to use logic correctly, how to observe objectively, etc.I would say that it may be even more important than math or science.
Totally agree. Lazy thinking is the cause of many of today's problems. Philosophy helps us to understand our place in the world, question effectively and understand our own cognitive biases and to debate properly, helping us to perform better in all areas of life and through the entire curriculum.
philosophy?? really?? what exactly is philosophy? isn't it just people making stuff up as they go along.
@chancellorkingsmyth the funny thing is that "Catholic Priests" take more philosophy classes than anything one subject. Considering you're an atheist, I wouldn't imagine you want alot of people thinking like them.