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  • 2 years ago
    • 2 years ago

      @lupita thank you for your decision. I do have one doctrinal issue I would like to clarify, in case I was not clear in the round.
      When I say Jesus is Lord, the head of the church etc. I am not arguing that that Paul is a lesser authority in the context of written scripture. One of the central doctrines to orthodox Christianity is the "internal consistency of scripture," meaning there are no examples of scripture contradicting itself. So the writings of Paul do not conflict with the words of jesus. Secondly, as a part of the process of cannonization, or the assembly of scripture, works that were selected to be part of the Bible are considered by the church since the time of jesus to be written in an inspired manner (meaning the holy spirit was guiding the author as he wrote the book) and therefore carry apostolic authority, meaning the author speaks for Jesus. This authority does not carry outside of the cannon of scripture, but inside the cannon of scripture, the teachings of Paul are not to be considered of less doctrinal weight than the words of Jesus.
      Therefore, it does not matter whether or not Jesus spoke explicitly on the issue of the morality of homosexual behavior, Paul's word on the subject is final.

      I hope that somehow clarifies what I was trying to communicate, if not I am
      Happy to discuss it with you

    • 2 years ago

      @chriscowherd Hi! I mean I think you just clarified yourself. Yes, and I'm getting Catholic school flashbacks.:) However, if that is your argument, I feel like saying Jesus is the one to speak on the matter, but so is Paul seems like another one of those picking and choosing instances. Where one person didn't say it but it's okay because we have this guy who said it. On the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, I was taught that despite this inspiration, man cannot fully translate what God has said, but can try his best. Which for me means there is room for error. Again, Pro should have elaborated more on why Paul cannot be viewed as one of the ultimate authorities on the topic (i.e. disputes with other apostles, his background/intentions). Anyways thanks for the clarification and good luck in future rounds!:)

    • 2 years ago

      @lupita Thank you for the great feedback and analysis!

  • 2 years ago

    @chriscowherd Congrats for advancing on the next round!
    @brandonslayton Hard luck on this one but hope to see you at our next tournament starting next week - registration is now open:
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  • 2 years ago

    Good debate @brandonslayton