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  • 2 years ago
    • 2 years ago

      @change_my_mind Congrats for advancing to the next round! Please expect further details on your next debate today/ tomorrow

      @kahnwiley Hard luck on this one but very much liked this debate, great job!
      We opened registrations for $5,000 Championship starting in January and looking forward to having you as an RD:
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      • 2 years ago

        @kahnwiley So serious! I like the Twitter 'YOU' better. Haha

      • 2 years ago

        Swag points to the Con +1,000

      • 2 years ago

        @change_my_mind Good debate! :kissing_heart:

      • 2 years ago

        Didn’t Trump recently declare the opioid crisis a national epidemic?

        Just wondering if there’s a difference between health epidemics and other epidemics (such as the opioid crisis, unless “drug addiction” is being considered here as a disease outbreak, but there hasn’t been any recent surge, more than the ordinary, in opioid deaths for Trump to declare it an epidemic

      • 2 years ago
        • 2 years ago

          @yaz Thanks for your perspective on this. I had literally zero prep time, lol.
          I thought I brought up the awareness thing, and also referenced the opioid epidemic in my second speech as an example of how it would structurally function. But perhaps I didn't emphasize these points enough.

        • 2 years ago

          @yaz P.S. Would love to be an RD, and/or RJ. And finish our conversation from the other week. :-) PM/email me?

        • 2 years ago

          @yaz the opioid crisis could be considered an epidemic because we have seen a massive explosion in it's usage.. not comparable to suicide as the rate has remained steady... By overreacting I meant that rash short term solutions could cause more harm than good... And why would we call something a more urgent term to something that is not comparable to bigger and more damaging causes of deaths that we're dealing with in America... And I wouldn't really call 44000 out of 330 million people exceptionally high... Still a problem that needs addressing though... Thank you for your comments!

        • 2 years ago

          @change_my_mind the US is in the top 30-50 countries (out of about 200 countries, depending on what ranking you look at) in terms of suicide rates (suicide / 100,000 people).. it's accompanied for the most part with developing countries in Africa and Asia.
          I see your point though.

        • 2 years ago

          @qallout well yeah because most undeveloped nations don't deal with suicide as much because everyone is in survival mode... Developed nations deal with suicide more than 2nd or 3rd world nations

        • 2 years ago

          @change_my_mind That's actually a common misconception. The issue is that there is no infrastructure or method to track suicides in most "developing" countries--with notable exceptions, like China, whose suicide rate is roughly comparable to ours, depending on whose stats you go with (go figure): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_China
          Also, @yaz, you can view the ranking of countries by suicide rate on the WHO Webstie and on Wikipedia. The US is ranked #48, with some "developed" nations like Russia, Sweden and Finland ranking higher on the list. Keep in mind the official stats in EVERY country are dependent upon reporting mechanisms which are, frankly, lacking in many countries--even "developed" "Western" countries. Not to mention the stigma associated with suicide in many cultures results in under reporting by friends and family (once again, in both "developed" and "developing" countries).
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate
          According to that data set, the highest recorded suicide rate (according to WHO figures from 2015) is Sri Lanka, with 34.6 per 100,000--as opposed to the U.S., with 12.6 per 100,000. Thats a substantial difference. It's also a substantial difference from Antigua and Barbados, at the bottom of the list, with 0.0 per 100,000 (REALLY?!). The age standardized norm, according to Our World in Statistics, is 11.5 per 100,000. So by the numbers, we're simply above average and not really by that much.
          This is a really interesting piece on the statistical analysis of worldwide suicide rates:
          https://ourworldindata.org/suicide/

        • 2 years ago

          @yaz and, just because I like graphs, here's a slightly old graph (from 2000), but it shows an interesting trend: http://chartsbin.com/view/kv2

        • 2 years ago

          @kahnwiley well thanks for that!! I'd still say 2 above global average couldn't be considered epidemic level... I'd still love to have a conversation with you about possible solutions to this issue

      • 2 years ago

        @qallout_tournament it's been 48 hours... Can we get a judge?

      • 2 years ago

        @kahnwiley @change_my_mind

        Apologies for the delay guys, your confirmed judge @matthewhidalgo will be coming this afternoon