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  • a year ago

    I'd love to be a part of this discussion...

    • a year ago

      @yaz

      Also, it is important to know that "All Powerful" and "All Good" is a subjective term that depends on human understandings of life. These terms are human definitions of what we understand.

      For example, when we look at Sharia Law. In a middle eastern Muslim country, they see Sharia Law as “just”. Here in the U.S. we see it as “unjust”. The same way some people see eating meat as bad and cruelty, while some others see meat as not a problem at all.

      In trying to discuss whether God is “All Good, and All Powerful” is trying to pigeon hole God into what we understand as being good and powerful. We see Powerful as controlling, we see good as perfect with no harm whatsoever.

      It’s the equivalent of the child telling the parent, that the parent is not good and loving because the parent would not let the child eat whatever it wants or that the parent did prevent the child from skinning their knee during a fall.

    • a year ago

      @yaz, @eli_mcgowan is right. The important part of Christianity is your belief in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ (the son of God). It is alright to continue to search for truth or say you don’t understand some of the other things. I think the biggest problem with some Christians is they are scared to admit when they do not know the answer to something. Peter walked with Christ and he still was afraid.

      • a year ago

        I don't think the concept of hell is consistent with a Good God. Would love to discuss this with anyone.

      • a year ago

        1 Corinthians 3 shows the fact that not all people are in the same place spiritually. There are some who are like babies still on milk, and some that are further along who are on meat. Keeping that in mind it is okay to say that there are some things that you do not understand as a Christian.

        1 Corinthians 3:

        Dear brothers and sisters, when I was with you I couldn’t talk to you as I would to spiritual people. I had to talk as though you belonged to this world or as though you were infants in Christ. I had to feed you with milk, not with solid food, because you weren’t ready for anything stronger. And you still aren’t ready.

        • a year ago

          An important part to the Christian God is his main attribute of holiness. Which means to be set apart. In the case for Christianity, Holiness makes God totally just and right in everything he does (because he is different from us) which is why he is all powerful and all good.

          It's easy to slap arguments saying "Well if God is a God of love, then why do we have suffering or why do people go to hell?" You have to understand that God is declared as a God of holiness above all of his attributes. Therefore, he can show love and show wrath. Because in the bible, God is oftentimes claimed to be a God of wrath. And he is completely righteous in his wrath.
          “But because of your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up
          wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God’s righteous
          judgment will be revealed” (Romans 2:5).
          God shows that wrath responds to sin proportionally (Sin being defined as disobedience of God). So since God is all good, he must address sin and disobedience. Of course, most people see that God can't be all good because of disasters, and if he was all powerful, he would just make everything good, right?

          Here's the thing: Referring to the bible, it states in Genesis that God created everything in HIS image, everything was at harmony with each other... However, when man sinned against God (Adam and Eve eating a forbidden fruit), evil was spread throughout the world. Now the argument most people make against most christians is that, "Why didn't God just stop them from eating that fruit?" Well, there's a lot of details to know (feel free to ask), but there's a trinity to God, and part of the trinity is the Son of God. God's mercy and justice through Jesus Christ is the whole foundation of Christianity. Without man falling, Jesus Christ would never be revealed and his mercy would never been shown.

          There's a lot more to it, but that's a lot of typing just for a comment. I'd totally be up for a discussion.