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  • 2 years ago
    • 2 years ago

      @quinfriberg @the_peoples_champ

      Please note that the winner for this round will be determined based on the best out of 3 votes i.e. community + 2 judges. Your confirmed judges so far: @kelleykrook

      • 2 years ago
        • 2 years ago

          @kelleykrook - thanks for the comments - I should have brought back the challenge at the end like you said, and should have given examples of historians (I had comments from church fathers on hand but still learning to do debates in these short time frames ;) so I was waiting to be challenged on it, but you’re right it makes it far more credible even to quickly reference names. Thanks for the feedback.

          P.S. - I did mention 1 Kings 11:1-8 as the source for Solomon (6:35 in the video) but didn’t quite the passage. Were you meaning read the verses? I’m still learning what’s worth taking time for and what should just be referenced in the time frame and would like your thoughts

          Thanks

      • 2 years ago

        @quinfriberg Congrats for advancing to the next round!

        @the_peoples_champ Too soon :-(

        • 2 years ago

          @the_peoples_champ - Good job man, I appreciate the fun/respectful atmosphere you brought to the debate. Looking forward to more debates down the road, hopefully in finals next time and not round one. Great job.

      • 2 years ago

        2 corinthians 6:14-18 Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said, “I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch no unclean thing; then I will welcome you, and I will be a father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to me, says the Lord Almighty.”

        you can't say that there is no verse speaking to it when there is a whole passage speaking on it @the_peoples_champ

        • 2 years ago

          @change_my_mind Two situations - 1) 2 people - not married....do not be unequally yoked (as you posted) definitely fits if one of the 2 is already a Christian. or 2) - 2 people ARE married, and 1 becomes a Christian...then this verse does not apply...and keeping the marriage together if the unbeliever consents .... - so 'avoid' is valid in situation 1, but 'avoid' would be wrong in situation 2.

        • 2 years ago

          @mvineyard well avoid would be valid in situation 1 but not 2 because its impossible to avoid a marriage you are already in

        • 2 years ago

          @change_my_mind Agreed...but I have seen people look at this verse as a justification for divorce from an unbeliever (ignoring other verses in the Bible...)

        • 2 years ago

          @mvineyard scripture must be examined within its full context so i definitely agree... however I do see instances where a divorce would be wise if one partner converts to christianity such as if a woman converted from islam to christianity and her muslim husband sought violence against her because of it... it's definitely a case by case basis

        • 2 years ago

          @change_my_mind Agreed - good example to consider.

      • 2 years ago

        @quinfriberg his browser must have crashed

        • 2 years ago

          @quinfriberg protocol is: if he doesn't return you guys posta rebuttal completing the rest of your Speaking time in the comments below as a video comment (or at least that is what i have seen done many times)

        • 2 years ago

          @quinfriberg you don't wanna restart the debate.. just end it...@qallout can handle it

        • 2 years ago

          So during this debate i found that Quin and peoples champ both did a good Job so first i wanna say Congratz to both of you. Now for the debate itself i don't think peoples champ presented enough information to win this debate the way the resolution is worded is hard to be Con for. my personal belief is that marrying a non Christian is ok but we as Christians should avoid it if necessary. the bible speaks about people marrying non Christians and staying together and there spouse being made holy through you. it also says we should not be unequally yoked.

          Quin had a strong argument and i believe is more closer to my personal view. he argued that the bible teaches for Christians to Avoid marrying non believers but if it did happen that they should remain married. the reason why this is a tough respolution for peoples champ is that he must provide evidence where the bible says we do not have to avoid marrying non believers which would be in direct contradiction with what paul taught. So for peoples champ to have a chance to win he woulda had to show there is a contradiction within the Scripture

          All in All was a good debate while it lasted oh for the record i am a Trinitarian Christian. Sorry said i would do video responses but my video is down at moment hoping to fix it soon so i can respond by video and jump back into a few debates