Science is cool, until it disproves what I already believe to be true ?!?!?!
@madmike cognitive dissonance is fascinating.
@madmike I love what science brings to the table for medicines, modern cars, planes, and showing us close ups of planets in our solar systems. However when science is claimed to have proven God doesnt exist to the point where time magazine cover says God is dead. Science has not proven evolution as it is NOT observable. Therefore my statement stands
@airbornefichter you’re just wrong about the facts of the matter when it come to evolution. And science most certainly has made it irrational to believe that god exists, even if it hasn’t proven definitively that god does not exist. You can’t accept the scientific method as the best path to discovering truth and also accept that god exists. Those two positions are mutually exclusive.
@madmike mike, in no way has evolution disproven God. Even if evolution is true (which MACRO-Evolution is NOT proven) then you still have to explain where everything (to include matter we cant see) came from. If I go with the big bang theory (which in some sense matches the book of Genesis) I will still ask you what caused the matter to bang, and where did that matter come from. All the way down to the very first atom I would ask you where did that come from? Youre self defeating yourself by making false claims that evolution is proven. I can prove you wrong with three words. THEORY of Evolution. The very definition of science is the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through OBSERVATION and experiment. Millers Theory was disproven and this fact was quietly pushed to the side. Because of this you have people like Richard Dawkins running all over the world only using words and mocking those who disagree with him. Its not us who have to prove our existence via observation as I do pretend that Science explains away God.
I dont pretend I meant
@airbornefichter I’m going to put this as clearly and gently as possible. You are wrong. The “THEORY” of gravity doesn’t meant that gravity is only a theory, it is simply the best explanation of the process and why it exists. This is the same for evolution. Evolution is an observable FACT, the theory of evolution is our current explanation of that observation. The fact of the matter is you have a set of beliefs that you want to be true, and you just ignore the mounds of data that demonstrates that you are wrong.
@dumb_bruenette What changes have I made in attitude and behavior
The god of the gaps is ever decreasing.
How old was Mary again?
@madmike cannonly 14
Probably the friendly atheist.
@madmike you want debate after this?
@madmike what u want to discuss? Let's head over to the lounge and decide on a topic all!
@madmike you there? Go to lounge gogoog
@behind_the_veil_of_ignorance let's do philosophy discussion after this ^_^
@bronsonkaahui I'm down.
The Catholic Church accepts evolution to be true.
Joel is of superior intellect. Joel is Nathanial (John 1:47). Joel is the son of a son of Amittai as mentioned in the book (Jonah 1-4). of Nineveh. Joel is finest Christian I have ever had the pleasure of meeting in person. Listen to him. He knows what he is talking about.