I agree, replace with pedophile registry. Pissing in public or public nudity shouldnt be on the list. Consensual sex shouldnt be either. Only child rapists should be on this list.
@bronsonkaahui Very good point. I also believe that there needs to be a drug and murder list.
@ayanahale1998 drugs should be legal.
@bronsonkaahui I agree! It is unconstitutional to restrict the people from many things (maybe ANYTHING).
I mean, I think what Bronson said was fair that certain offenses shouldn't get someone onto the list, but there does need to be a list of some sort. If there is verified evidence that certain people have acted as sexual predators, then the public should have a right to know that. Whether it's a government list or a private list I don't really care, but if I as a private citizen compiled a list of all the people convicted of rape or pedophilia and then distributed that through a neighborhood, I would be doing a huge public service to the neighborhood. That's essentially the same thing a sex offender registry does.
@sharkb8 Then there would need to be a list for all sorts of things. Think about it, these guys (pedophiles) truly have no idea how to deal with these urges. Before pedophiles, it was gays. Before gays, it was Jews. and etc. Is the registry helping anyone or is it just a defense mechanism to something you don't understand?
@ayanahale1998 wait. You're comparing pedophilia and rape to being gay or a Jew... but those are completely separate categories.Are you saying that pedophilia and rape are not a danger to other individuals and society?Or are you saying that gays and Jews are a danger to other individuals and society?I would hope we can agree that there is a difference between being gay (personal choice that harms no one) or being a Jew (part of your inherent culture and identity which harms no one) vs. raping someone or having consensual sex with a person who is not mentally or physically able to consent. So then the question becomes, would having a registry with the names of those who were in the second category, be a net positive for the community?And the answer is yes. The registry lets the public know about people who, as you yourself said, have no idea how to deal with their urges, some of which are a major danger to individuals and society. If the community is aware, they can take steps to protect those close to them, and hopefully to get the sex offender some help.
@sharkb8 ... First, I want to clarify that homosexuality and pedophilia are NOT in separate categories, they ARE very much related. Homosexuality is a choice for SOME, but it is NOT a choice for others. Pedophilia is a not a choice for SOME men. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androphilia_and_gynephiliaI'm comparing the public humiliation and ridicule that Jews, sex offenders and any other oppressed NATURAL beings suffered through. One study shows that castration and electrocution were used on homosexuals to "cure" or "help" this person. Now everyone realizes that being gay is a natural thing. But pedophilia? How could that be natural? Because of the beauty of nature's shotgun effect.The shotgun effect is when nature gives a whole species (many species , actually) different varieties of urges, abilities, pigments, etc... When our shotgun went off (actually, it's STILL going off) we ended up with different kinds of what we call "sexual orientation" or "races" .
@ayanahale1998 I'm aware it's a natural desire. But some people have natural desires to kill people. Others have natural desires to rape people. Do we just let them kill and rape?Just because it's "natural" for some people does not mean society should say "oh I guess it was natural, ok bro keep raping every hot high school chick you see." This is the differentiation. Homosexuals who act on their urges are not hurting anyone. Jews who exist as Jews are not hurting anyone. But convicted sex offenders have harmed someone. It's a different category.Like I said at the beginning, I agree with Bronson that something like "public nudity" probably shouldn't qualify for a registry, because that didn't hurt anyone, but if an offender has sexually assaulted another person, or has sexually groomed, molested, or had relations with a person who is too young to consent, then the public has a right to know about that offender.Also, I am not advocating that individuals with sexual attraction to children be put on a registry. I am advocating that individuals who have acted on these attractions and been convicted of having gone through with these desires, is someone who the community should be aware of.
@sharkb8 The registry does not help sex offenders by keeping YOU aware. There are other alternatives to help satisfy these peoples urges, but everyone is so busy putting up walls to protect their children, that they don't realize, nor do they seem to care what happens to anyone who is not in society's standards of 'normal'. I'm not saying allow these men to freely act on these urges, but they should have SOME sort of outlet. Yes. Did you know that the UK have clubs full of adult women who act and behave like prepubescent children? Because in the UK, pedophilia is a sexual orientation, NOT a crime. Here in America, a woman may not even depict herself as someone under 18 in a pornographic movie. Catholic schoolgirl? BYE! Like to call your husband daddy? SORRY! It's illegal. Men/women who are pedophiles would not nearly be half as violent or prone to attack again, if people stopped looking down on it (pedophilia) and them like a crime.
@sharkb8 How is a man suppose to act according to the law, but the law says that "IF YOU HAVE ANY OF THESE URGES, YOU ARE A SEX OFFENDER"?
@ayanahale1998 I think what you're really criticizing is that those with pedophilic urges are being marginalized by society and given no outlet to get these urges out. I agree with you, and I would be interested in finding solutions to help these individuals.But that's a separate issue from the idea of a registry. Wouldn't you agree that someone who has raped another person or has had sex with a 5 year old is someone who the community should know about? That's part of the reason a sex offender registry is a positive for the community. If we can agree that those convicted of violent sexual crimes should be on a registry, then we've agreed that a registry should exist for the betterment of the community. We can modify what specifically gets someone onto the registry, but a registry of some sort should still exist.Also I'm curious where you're getting your facts from. Where are you seeing that Catholic Schoolgirl fantasy is illegal? I've certainly seen some porn with models portraying schoolgirls. Also what law is saying you can't call your partner daddy? I've never seen that law. How prevalent are these clubs in the UK where adult women roleplay as prepubescent kids? Do you have any articles or information about them?
I'd say that they should work in such a way that each case is reviewed before being placed on the list to ensure that the person poses some reasonable danger to the public. It's a shame when folks end up on the list for something that pretty clearly didn't pose real harm to the general public.