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  • a year ago

    That depends on what you mean. There certainly is a rape culture in some Middle Eastern countries.

  • a year ago

    If you live in a country where the response to a rape victim coming forward about her attacker is to have her house burned down if the attacker is a popular high school football player? You have rape culture.

    If a reporter sheds tears over the "ruined career prospects" of two teenage rapists after their conviction, you have rape culture.

    If a man can rape a child, flee to Europe, and somehow still get to make movies for Hollywood, you have rape culture.

    When candidates for public office use terms like "legitimate rape," or refer to a fetus that exists because of a rape as "a gift from god," you have rape culture.

    When you have people who claim they think rape is terrible but are real quick to jump to prison rape jokes when someone they don't like gets arrested, you have rape culture.

    When people use rape as a synonym for a decisive victory in a competitive video game, you have rape culture.

    When one of the most beloved movies of American nerd-dom has the hero raping a woman by way of deception but "it's totally okay because she liked it," you have rape culture. Seriously, f*** Revenge of the Nerds, there are no heroes in that movie.

    When you claim to care about male rape victims, but really only ever bring them up to attack feminists, and also openly mock male rape victims who come forward with homophobic slurs or implying that the guy should consider himself "lucky" if his rapist is a conventionally attractive woman, you have rapr eculture.

    I could go on, but really, the people who get it already get it, and the ones who don't don't care.

    • a year ago

      @arkle I don't know where you live but it is not legal to rape nor burn peoples houses down you probably got that from a movie and it isn't a legitimate argument. Just the accusation of raping somebody can ruin peoples lives by making them lose their jobs, relationship with their significant other and they are frowned upon by society so I still don't see how you think that other people think rape and molestation are okay. And one incident of somebody raping a child and moving to Europe to evade arrest and still makes movies for Hollywood that doesn't make all of the 325.7 million people okay and accepting of rape. That doesn't make that whole situation, okay but it also doesn't make the US a rape culture. I believe that they use terms like "legitimate rape," because some people would accuse people of rape just because they don't like them, And only a psycho would think that not only is rape, okay but it is a gift from God. https://www.scienceabc.com/eyeopeners/laugh-dark-humor-funny.html Dark humor is one of the many kinds of humor and just because you tell a joke relating to something such as rape doesn't mean that you think its okay there is a difference between social views and jokes. "When people use rape as a synonym for a decisive victory in a competitive video game, you have rape culture." I have been playing video games for as long as I remember and nobody does that check your facts. I have never even heard of Revenge of the nerds so I wouldn't say it is the most popular movie in The US and if that is one of the scenes then that movie is F***ed up. I'm not going to comment on your last statement because none of that is true. I feel like rape is a terrible thing and I know that it happens often and I would like nothing more than to stop rape from happening. That's why I feel like everybody should conceal and carry a self-defense weapon with them at all times.

    • a year ago

      @devon "I don't know where you live but it is not legal to rape nor burn peoples houses down you probably got that from a movie and it isn't a legitimate argument."

      I never said it was legal, so you are a liar. Also, you seem to think that when people say "rape culture" they are claiming rape is legal. That is also a lie on your part. Now, about the burned down house thing, I'm just going to assume you were ignorant of that incident and aren't lying. This is as generous as I am willing to get with you. https://thinkprogress.org/victims-house-burned-down-after-she-accuses-football-star-of-rape-a8e5c995d1eb/

      "Just the accusation of raping somebody can ruin peoples lives"

      Another lie. A CONVICTED rapist, Roman Polanski, didn't even get his membership in the Academy of Arts & Sciences (the people behind the Oscars) until THIS YEAR. Several athletes accused of rape have gone to win Heisman Trophies and Super Bowl Rings AFTER the accusation. Just for a few small examples.

      "so I still don't see how you think that other people think rape and molestation are okay."

      I provided examples, so this is yet another lie on your part.

      " And one incident of somebody raping a child and moving to Europe to evade arrest and still makes movies for Hollywood that doesn't make all of the 325.7 million people okay and accepting of rape."

      Never said it was the whole population. This is a deliberate misrepresentation of what people who talk about rape culture mean. You are either so stupid you don't understand what rape culture means, and therefore aren't qualified to talk about it, or you do know and are being deliberately obtuse which means you need to shut the F up about it.

      "That doesn't make that whole situation, okay but it also doesn't make the US a rape culture."

      It is an example of it.

      "I believe that they use terms like "legitimate rape," because some people would accuse people of rape just because they don't like them,"

      No, because they are misogynist pieces of shit like yourself and they believe that to be true. FTR, considering the kind of crap rape victims face from the media and from lying subhumans such as yourself, no moderately intelligent women would make a false rape allegation, considering that there are cases where you can see the crime on video and people will STILL claim she's lying. Which is another example of rape culture, I might add.

      "And only a psycho would think that not only is rape, okay but it is a gift from God. "

      Or as we call them in America, Christian Conservatives.

      "I have been playing video games for as long as I remember and nobody does that check your facts."

      Oh look, another lie. Nodoby does that? LIAR! This thread here? Full of stories of people who've encountered what I'm talking about. https://www.neogaf.com/threads/on-the-casual-use-of-the-word-rape-in-gaming-culture.479986/ Now, maybe you just haven't encountered it yourself and you arrogant enough to think your personal experience can be extrapolated to apply to the whole world (and frankly I'd believe that seeing as you certainly act that arrogant). But even if you aren't a liar, you're still an idiot. Also, you might enjoy the thread. There are many scumscuking rape culture deniers there spewing their proud ignorance.

      Oh, and here is a seperate group of gamers discussing the same issue that you claim doesn't exist for whatever reason; the choices being ignornace or dishonesty. http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2003437&page=1#post22972943

      "I have never even heard of Revenge of the nerds so I wouldn't say it is the most popular movie in The US"

      Never claimed it was the most popular movie in the U.S. Yet another lie from you. Pathetic. Truly pathetic. I'd actually feel sorry for you if you weren't so awful. Maybe try countering claims I actually make, instead of inventing ones in your own diseased brain to tear down so you can feel like you won something.

      "I'm not going to comment on your last statement because none of that is true."

      Man, you just can't stop lying can you?

      "I feel like rape is a terrible thing and I know that it happens often and I would like nothing more than to stop rape from happening. "

      Unless what it takes to stop it is something that would make you uncomfortable, as demonstrated by your utter denial of what it is in culture to drive a lot of men to feel like certain types of rape aren't rape, or that rape is inevitable because they are entitled to women's bodies.

      "That's why I feel like everybody should conceal and carry a self-defense weapon with them at all times."

      Yeah, that won't work. More likely the person with the gun gets killed with their own gun. http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-guns-self-defense-charleston-20150619-story.html

      Only morons such as yourself buy into the lie of "An armed society is a polite society." There are numerous studies that show otherwise, not that you care. Facts never matter to people like you.

    • a year ago

      @arkle you do impeccable work. id love to hear more of what you have to say

  • a year ago

    "the customary beliefs, social forms, and material traits of a racial, religious, or social group; also: the characteristic features of everyday existence (such as diversions or a way of life) shared by people in a place or time" that is the definition of culture. I would say that in the united states that we have an education based culture because we by law have to go to school and MOST parents encourage their children to get good grades. The law is against rape and if there is evidence then the person who is acused of rape will go to prison, and I don't know anybody who's parents make them or encourage rape. This is why I say that THE US ONLY THE US doesn't have a rape culture.

    • a year ago

      @devon "The law is against rape and if there is evidence then the person who is acused of rape will go to prison, and I don't know anybody who's parents make them or encourage rape. This is why I say that THE US ONLY THE US doesn't have a rape culture.'

      Written by an idiot who doesn't know what rape culture means, and therefore should shut up about it. That quote you shared is so full of lazy reductive and hyper-literal thinking that no one who buys it should be allowed to vote, own firearms, or have children.

      Fact: More than 90% of rapists never see the inside of a jail cell.

      Here's dumb f***s like you if you were ever a 911 Operator.

      Victim: "Help, please, someone is trying to rape me!"
      You, a monster: "Uh, rape is illegal you stupid bitch. Quit trying to ruin men's lives you feminazi. *click*"

      You are so disingenuous it is nauseating. You lie, misrepresent, takes things out of context, and expect people to believe it because you present your made up and/or taken out of context facts in a smug manner. You are utterly vile. And your excuses for rape culture tell me that if you haven't done it already, you sure as hell want to and are desperately searching for any loophole you can find to justify it to yourself as not being rape.

  • a year ago

    So often, people use words to coin phrases with a specific meaning, while others come a long and try to impose their own meaning so they can deny the very existence of what the phrase was coined to describe.

    It is really a stupid kind of argument.

    Its like saying "there are no disabled people" And I say, "what do you mean?" and you say "All people have abilities so there are no disabled people."

    Sure, that's true, but its also not what disabled was coined to describe.

    Rape culture in the US context is about cultural attitudes that help perpetuate rape in the culture by giving men excuses to commit rape or which minimize the perceived wrongness of the act.

    That certainly exists. It is not some grand unified culture endemic to every American, but it exists as part of the fabric of American culture. And frankly, is not remotely unique to America but can be found the world over to varying degrees.

    • a year ago

      @sigfried Yes but the problem with this is that rape has a very clear meaning in common law throughout the last 1000 years; equating it with a theoretical cultural attitudes (Who?); people in prison who are convicted of raping a women are literally the target of gangrape in prison. There is not one cultural aspect of American society that isn't Gynocentric. That is, MEN, as a cultural phenomenon of the West, perceive crimes committed against women drastically more egregious than the exact same crime against men. To say that the culture is has "rape" built into it denigrates individual rape victims who are being told that their rapist isn't at fault, society is.

    • a year ago

      @logicalreason That is not in any remote way the meaning of Rape Culture. Again, you are simply taking a term and wildly misinterpreting it so that you can discredit it.

      So you are saying. "Yes, But disabled people still have abilities!" You say "Yes" but you don't at all understand because you go on to do exactly what I said people do that is so wrong.

      Until you can demonstrate you actually understand what Rape Culture means, you aren't in a position to meaningfully critique it.

    • a year ago

      @sigfried again, etymology matters. Both words stand on their own as clear, putting them together is literally how language works, creating terms and demanding I accept their definition is not how you do academic research, it's jargon at best with emotional connotation that denigrates rape to something else

      Disabled is a term that's scalable. You can disable your printer and your electricity. Murder is not scalable, if I say murder, it's unambiguous what I'm referring too

    • a year ago

      @logicalreason So when we say "hot dog" we are talking about dogs that are over heated? No, we are talking about a particular kind of sausage.

      Etymology (in the way you are using it) is useless if you are trying to go around the people that coined and use the term and to make it about something else, then try to discredit the people using the term as intended with your own usage of it.

      It is pure straw man argumentation. You are critiquing something that no one is championing and your defense is Etymology. Which is extra wrong because real Etymology does take into account meanings that people use them for in pop culture, not only considering original root meanings.