Too big of generalisation, no?
@gigi nah, most fantasize about legally killing someone. others just silently contribute to the problem. unless they need a firearm for their job, they are contributing gun culture in the US and are moral monsters.
@daniel_jongeward what if they live over an hour from Law Enforcement or emergency services in a rural area like Montana and Alaska? Not to mention hunting, where gun use is also regulated.
@julian a gun is not a hammer, it doesn't solve all your problems, but if all you have is a hammer all problems start to look like nails.
@daniel_jongeward and? Can you illustrate that? Because there is a real possible threat in rural areas of home evasion, and dangerous animals like bears.
@julian Bears are only dangerous if threatened. Home invasions are so rare and guns almost never help. The home invader is more likely to be armed, and more likely to get the jump on you, so quit your stupid legal murder fantasy. The current system is not designed to keep us safe, thats the problem.
@daniel_jongeward can you provide evidence for any of those statements? I think if it were so rare for a stranger to appear at your home, it frieghtnered you, you would feel different. I’m more than happy to debate h2h.
@julian whats your debate premise? you can look up home invasion FBI statistics nationwide with a short google search seems last time we had data was 2017 but was even further down by 67% violent crime is down 0.2% but around 72% of all violent crime and murder was done with a firearm in 2017 according to the FBI. strangers appear at the home all the time, sometimes there just mormons, lol. I not once have been frightened. heck most thieves don't want want to kill anyone. I don't live in fear. more than happy to debate this.
@daniel_jongeward I would appreciate if you challenged me on the same resolution titled above. Do you live in an area where it could take more than a half hour, or longer for emergency assistance?
@julian no, relevance? why you making it personal anyway? I suppose you are saying places with bad response times have more crime? thats also not true cause they have less people.
@daniel_jongeward no that's not what I'm saying at all. It's not about me. I've never owned a real gun. The police would be here in no time in my neighborhood. But for other people it's not like that. Alaska, Montana , etc. That's why this seems so important to them, but not you.
@julian but also the crime rates in the those places are also so low, but also owning a gun is safer for sport , because the lack of other human beings around. But unfortunately regional gun control doesn't work, because people always travel to places that they are lax, and bring them in from other states, thats why the majority is asking for universal background checks.
@daniel_jongeward You are not providing statistics to prove the crime rate is lower in rural areas. But Im sure you would agree the opiate crisis targeted many rural areas.
@julian crisis' have no will to target anything. but rural area's can be subsepatble to many things, different environment, different social values and structure ect.
@daniel_jongeward do you read the newspaper? There is plenty of evidence, lawsuits even, suggesting the opiate crisis targeted rural areas. I don’t imagine it would be hard to prove that this also caused distress to private property and public safety.
My morals are better than most of the people I am in contact with. Your statement is simply false. Maybe start from a factual base and go from there? Stating something that simply isn't true isn't even debatable. I help hundreds of people with a free service I provide, I educate thousands with help videos and contribute vegetables to local strangers. I help people in need and respect everyone that deserves it. What is it you do for people exactly? Let's compare life styles, or the philanthropy we achieve personally. Then let's see if the gun owner has a higher moral standard than the non. Who have you helped this week?
@norcalnay kinda irrelevant to morality. Your basic agruement is murderers can be good people too, heck some serial killers did charity work. you still can be a moral monster in one area and give all your money to charity. Lots of people do. Some people sell all their possessions before commiting a horrible act, like the guy In the las vegas shooting, He gave away, gambled away, and tipped away everything before Shooting up that crowd. I would never say my morals are perfect or anything, but makes me think you protest too much and are just a coward clinging onto his pussy stick. So yeah... no that you, not buying what you are selling.
@daniel_jongeward debate it then, pussy.