17 days ago
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  • 17 days ago

    There is zero evidence that god exists. your title is unprovable. Why not debate actual subjects.

    • 17 days ago

      I can prove your belief in god is from indoctrination.

      • 17 days ago

        The universe has always been here and always will be here.

        • 17 days ago

          your audio is fine he's trying to intimidate you lol

          • 17 days ago

            THE UNIVERSE HAS ALWAYS EXISTED LETS MOVE ON

            • 17 days ago

              omg this is silly now

              • 17 days ago

                millions of people believing in something does not make it true.

                • 17 days ago

                  scientists are only guessing about the universe, no actual proof exists because we simply do not have access to the entire universe.

                  • 17 days ago

                    your idea of god just disproved your argument. if god had to make us, something had to make god. you are silly.

                    • 17 days ago

                      omg really? wow

                      • 17 days ago

                        yeah you can break it down to science. wow

                        • 17 days ago

                          i cant explain something therefore GOD! lol whatever

                          • 17 days ago

                            THE UNIVERSE IS INFINITE WOW. This guy just lies to make points lol

                            • 17 days ago

                              BECAUSE IT DOESNT RELATE

                              • 17 days ago

                                NO DO NOT AGREE WITH HIM

                                • 17 days ago

                                  such a weak argument

                                  • 17 days ago

                                    what if the wind blew the stick

                                    • 17 days ago

                                      wow

                                      • 17 days ago

                                        this guy is trying to use science to prove god, it's simply disgusting bro

                                        • 17 days ago

                                          pft unreal

                                          • 16 days ago

                                            18 min. Kind of a train wreck. Pro made a claim and wants to talk endlessly about what Con believes. Which is irrelevant. Just support the contention that "god exists" then let Con respond.

                                            • 16 days ago

                                              20:45. Ugh. Yea, that is a god of the gaps argument.

                                              • 15 days ago

                                                @johnsbadger if you ever want to debate the Satanism thing let me know.

                                                • 3 days ago

                                                  @julian I think satanists are just an anti theist troll religion

                                                • 3 days ago

                                                  @daniel_jongeward pretty much. Or actually more of an anti-Christian hate group, or far right extremists/neo-fascist by their own admission. LaVey’s wife Diane is on record in their divorce proceedings admitting it was a plagerized as a Con for a quick buck, but people still seem to take it that serious anyway.

                                                • 2 days ago

                                                  @julian haven't met a few I wouldn't classify them as a hate group, definitely not fascists. Maybe a bit anarchist, but those traits are not mutually exclusive. Seems you fashioned a bit of a strawman. I don't know of anyone taking it more series than star wars or star trek. I suppose its a community, but their main goal seems to be keeping christians from abusing their power in government. here seems to be some info: https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/tenets

                                                • a day ago

                                                  @daniel_jongeward as Atheist, I understand why you would seem to appreciate perceived shared values, but it is you who are misinformed. Peter Gilmore, the current leader of the organization had been on record for years in support of fascism, in fact in his new book the organization is selling, the Satanic Scriptures, he adds a whole chapter about it as doctrine.

                                                  The reason why I call them a hate group soefically is because it is anti-Christian/religion group. I cited their tie in with fascism, which is no strawman. Please always do research and explain before ever saying such a thing to me. Your opinion about who you know is surely not relaxant. I will surely hold up accountable defend it h2h.

                                                  People are serious enough to erect a public statute but knowone takes it seriously? They have an estimated to have 10,000 registratered members, although no records are not published. You’re defending a cult.

                                                  https://cvltnation.com/lucifer-liberator-racism-fascism-left-hand-path/

                                                  https://www.answers.com/Q/How_many_members_are_in_the_church_of_Satan

                                                • a day ago

                                                  @daniel_jongeward or actually linking the organization to fascism is as easy as pointing out that Diane... I mean Anton LaVey plagerized “Might is Right” word for word, whose narrative is divide, destroy and conquer to the point the book is considered a parody by some scholars. According to DuckDuckGo search engine, free PDFs are available on sites like the neofascist “Stormfront”.

                                                • 5 hours ago

                                                  @julian perhaps scotsman is the correct fallacy you are using because basically you are saying all satanists *Blank* Im not defending one cult over the other Santaist, even if a troll religion, have just as much right to erect a statue as anyone else, one could even call it art. More original and thought provoking than most. All religions are cults. the only difference is membership and numbers and perhaps power. So you are defending a cult too, just the easy popular one.

                                                • an hour ago

                                                  @daniel_jongeward not whatsoever. Your statement is just a bunch of text chamber nonsense and ass-homs and I really don't time for that.

                                                  Because I think for your claim to be true, "Scotsman fallacy",you would be saying that by pointing out a single person or group is doesn't mean they are, but that's not what I said. So again,yes, the current leader is facist, but I also point out, "The Satanic Bible", plagiarized from "Might is Right", which is known for an extreme right divide and conquer philosophy to point of parody. Peter Gilmore, the current "High Priest", also has of course now added a new book the "Satanic Scriptures", in which he includes a chapter about facism.. Look, its not all copied from Ayn Rand if it really would make much of a difference. Because dogmatic texts are connected with facist ideologies my premis is relavant, and material.

                                                  Infact, if you scroll up you will see where you talk about how you know someone or something, so it's not like that. That is an example of an actual "Scotsman fallacy."

                                                  I don't give a fuck about the status one way or another. This isn't a debate about free speech.