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  • 3 years ago

    I think this was completely blown out of proportion. Yes, it was wrong for the team to make those lists. But to cancel their entire season for it when they are ranked #1 in the country right now? That's an opportunity they may not get back.

    • 3 years ago

      I don't think 1 really has to do with the other

      • 3 years ago

        What do you suggest should have been the punishment then? Along with canceling the rest of the season they have to take classes with the center for sexual assault on campus. The classes alone would not be enough to end the behavior and you know it.

        They did this as a team ritual every year. The team dynamic and culture encouraged them to do this and they were rating the women's soccer team. This has everything to do with their team.

      • 3 years ago

        But why would you stop them from competing for doing something in the privacy of their own lives? Like if they got drunk together, would it be a problem? If they all had crazy sex orgies with each other, would it be a problem? If they all decided to open a business selling candy bars, would it be a problem? The point I'm making is that these guys did this among themselves. They kept it private. And it escaped, but they did nothing illegal. It was "rude" I guess, but everyone talks like that. I bet the girls team has moments of "team culture" that is rude too, but that doesn't mean you cancel their season over it.

        I mean Harvard definitely has the right to do this, I personally wouldn't have but apparently it was a big deal to them.

      • 3 years ago

        It's part of a larger issue. It's not victimless. It's degrading and objectifying and I can tell you as someone who has encountered mens teams who do things like this, this is only scratching the surface.

        So if a group does something "among themselves" like sexually assault the freshmen on the team, they shouldn't be punished because it happened "in the privacy of their own lives?"

        "It was "rude" I guess, but everyone talks like that. I bet the girls team has moments of "team culture" that is rude too, but that doesn't mean you cancel their season over it."

        1. It was not just rude, it undermined an entire team and made the women's team feel not only objectified but unsafe.
        2. If the women's team did the same thing, I would hope they would also be punished in the same way.

        How do you not see how behavior like this can escalate?